Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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NDA clarifications?
As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message
Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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Feel free to point out where this NDA is then - links, screenshots, something which we can visit and look for ourselves? I don't think any of us would want to break NDA, so feel free to help us with this one Kevin.
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As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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Microsoft sends it to you, you sign it and either post or fax it back.
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Feel free to point out where this NDA is then - links, screenshots, something which we can visit and look for ourselves? I don't think any of us would want to break NDA, so feel free to help us with this one Kevin.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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There is no information in the End User License Agreement notifying us that build 5342 is covered under NDA. (I just checked - Win Key + R > type in WinVer > click the EULA link) The NDA you are referring to covers dicussions made in the Technical Private Newsgroups and certain parts of Microsoft Connect. Internal Builds and certain builds distributed to some Microsoft TAP Customers are also covered under NDA.
What is confusing you is the fact that you did not receive 5342 from MSDN, so you are assuming its under NDA. Its not, Microsoft distributed this build only to Tech Testers and TAP Customers because its not a build of quality similar to a Customer Technology Preview. Its just a snap shot preview showing a glimpse of whats taking place in the development towards BETA 2. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message
As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message
As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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A Couple of Years Ago, when both Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 were getting Beta Tested, We used to have a Rule that said the following: "Any Build that is not getting Released to the General Public via Public Download is Under an NDA!"
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
There is no information in the End User License Agreement notifying us that build 5342 is covered under NDA. (I just checked - Win Key + R > type in WinVer > click the EULA link) The NDA you are referring to covers dicussions made in the Technical Private Newsgroups and certain parts of Microsoft Connect. Internal Builds and certain builds distributed to some Microsoft TAP Customers are also covered under NDA.
What is confusing you is the fact that you did not receive 5342 from MSDN, so you are assuming its under NDA. Its not, Microsoft distributed this build only to Tech Testers and TAP Customers because its not a build of quality similar to a Customer Technology Preview. Its just a snap shot preview showing a glimpse of whats taking place in the development towards BETA 2. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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But this is now... not then. So feel free to throw us a link which has the NDA on please Kevin.
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A Couple of Years Ago, when both Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 were getting Beta Tested, We used to have a Rule that said the following: "Any Build that is not getting Released to the General Public via Public Download is Under an NDA!"
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message There is no information in the End User License Agreement notifying us that build 5342 is covered under NDA. (I just checked - Win Key + R type in WinVer > click the EULA link) The NDA you are referring to covers dicussions made in the Technical Private Newsgroups and certain parts of Microsoft Connect. Internal Builds and certain builds distributed to some Microsoft TAP Customers are also covered under NDA.
What is confusing you is the fact that you did not receive 5342 from MSDN, so you are assuming its under NDA. Its not, Microsoft distributed this build only to Tech Testers and TAP Customers because its not a build of quality similar to a Customer Technology Preview. Its just a snap shot preview showing a glimpse of whats taking place in the development towards BETA 2. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Seeing as Kevin seems to think there is an NDA for Windows Vista, could anyone point it out to me? As far as I know (including Andre I believe on this matter), we don't seem to think there is one.
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Zack Whittaker wrote:
But this is now... not then. So feel free to throw us a link which has the NDA on please Kevin.
Stop feeding him. He's been told this many times already.
But if he's so sure about this NDA, then we all have a right to see it ;o) Trust me on this one.
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Zack Whittaker wrote: But this is now... not then. So feel free to throw us a link which has the NDA on please Kevin.
Stop feeding him. He's been told this many times already.
As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message
Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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TAP testers don't necesarily get the internal builds - the whole point of internal builds is that they never leave the building. Where's the NDA for standard technical testers then Kevin?
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As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message
As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message
In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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Since you do not have access to the recent changes, you may not be aware of what can or can not be talked about. Please stop with the NDA things for Vista Beta Progam.
Thanks Jason
Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group. Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.
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"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message
I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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So why are Microsoft employee's blogging about Vista then? http://blogs.msdn.com/categories/detail.aspx?category=Windows+Vista
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I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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"I am 100% sure" Then you are 100% wrong.
Do one of two things to prove your point which it seems you alone believe: 1. Post a link to the current source. Something outdated or not applicable to this specific Beta is not relevant since different programs and Betas have different rules. 2. Contact Microsoft with your complaints and have then show where you are correct. If you can not do either of the above, that helps prove your complaint wrong.
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I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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Kevin John Panzke wrote:
I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
All that means is that you are 100% wrong, no more nor less. -- Tom Porterfield
But if he's so sure about this NDA, then we all have a right to see it ;o) Trust me on this one.
the best way to make a troll go away is to stop feeding it.
Trust me on this one.
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What does losing your job have to do with dropping out of the BETA Program? Its not like it required subscription which you are paid for through MSDN! -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message
I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
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It just seems Andre, with Kevin that 1 + 1 = 42....
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
What does losing your job have to do with dropping out of the BETA Program? Its not like it required subscription which you are paid for through MSDN! -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message I don't have access to the Windows Vista Beta on Microsoft Connect anymore (ever since I dropped out of the Beta, due to both losing my Job at Home Depot, and for Personal Reasons), however, I am 100% sure that Microsoft does NOT want you guys to be talking about any Releases that are NOT Released to either MSDN or the General Public.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message In fact, I bet you £100 which is about $176 that you cannot find an NDA for the technical testers for Windows Vista.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, "There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's (for the Internal Microsoft Builds).
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Exactly, there isn't one for Vista :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
I didn't sign or see any NDA for the beta program I'm in and we have access to 5342.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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I agree with Mike and Robert, you are feeding him and it will never end. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message
But if he's so sure about this NDA, then we all have a right to see it ;o) Trust me on this one.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Williams" wrote in message Zack Whittaker wrote: But this is now... not then. So feel free to throw us a link which has the NDA on please Kevin.
Stop feeding him. He's been told this many times already.
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:37:00 +0100, Zack Whittaker wrote:
It just seems Andre, with Kevin that 1 + 1 = 42....
Of *course* the answer is 42. Every geek should know that... <g>
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Just want him to realise that there's no links out there relating to the NDA so hopefully he'll realise his own mistakes... but good point.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
I agree with Mike and Robert, you are feeding him and it will never end. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message But if he's so sure about this NDA, then we all have a right to see it ;o) Trust me on this one.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Mike Williams" wrote in message Zack Whittaker wrote: But this is now... not then. So feel free to throw us a link which has the NDA on please Kevin.
Stop feeding him. He's been told this many times already.
That's why I said it ;o) http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=answer+to+life%2C+the+universe+and+everything&meta
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--: Original message follows :-- "Yeff" wrote in message
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:37:00 +0100, Zack Whittaker wrote:
It just seems Andre, with Kevin that 1 + 1 = 42....
Of *course* the answer is 42. Every geek should know that... <g
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